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Coalition Gathering 2003:
Erwin McManus

Coalition Gathering hears about being a welcoming church

Erwin McManus urges Christians to be guided more by "wisdom" than by "reason"

by Doug King, Witherspoon WebWeaver
Portland, OR - October 6, 2003

[10-7-03]

Gathering VIII of the Presbyterian Coalition opened on Monday, Oct. 7, in the sanctuary of Sunset Presbyterian Church in Portland, Oregon. Your WebWeaver arrived late (not for the first time), but in time to join in the evening worship. The call to worship was performed by a lively children's choir - kids who obviously enjoyed what they were doing, and did it well.

After a time of praise songs, Erwin McManus delivered the sermon for the evening. The pastor of Mosaic, a growing and diverse congregation that sees the whole of Los Angeles as its parish (and is seriously reaching out to impact the social structures of the whole urban area, he said), he is best known, perhaps, as the author of An Unstoppable Force: daring to become the church God had in mind. That title is also the theme of the whole event - an interesting image for the church in a world that has more than enough "force" these days.

His talk, running for nearly an hour and a half, showed him to be a terrific performer, a creative phrasemaker, and a man with a passion for "bringing people to Jesus," and motivating his whole congregation to do the same. And above all, he's a stand-up comic, who has mastered his material well. He poked fun at Presbyterians, at his own congregation, which is related to the Southern Baptist Convention although it was one of the first groups to abandon the denominational name. And at himself, described his history as that of a "full-blooded pagan."

He began by asserting that "we need a movement of dreamers and visionaries," like the early church that is pictured in Luke's account of Pentecost.

As he told of motivating people in his church to witness to their neighbors about the Gospel, he noted an unexpected side effect: Their neighbors are all moving out, he said, because "as we lead them to Christ, their values change, and their lives improve, and they're able to move to better places."

Many of us are committed to creating a more welcoming church. In his own way, so is McManus. He insists that members of the congregation make visitors feel really welcome. That led him to do away with "the Welcome" in the congregation - that time when people in the congregation would be invited to greet each other. He soon realized that indeed the members of the congregation did greet each other, but they were so eager to do that that they would walk right past visitors - "not even see them" - to be with friends they knew and loved so deeply. So "the Welcome" had to go, people had to be driven out of their comfort zones, and slowly they have moved from "welcoming" as a "rule," part of the formal structure of worship, to welcoming as a value, a part of the ethos, the shared values and lifestyles of the congregation.

Woven through all of this challenging stuff was a strong thread of anti-intellectualism. He lamented that "we have entrusted the church to theologians rather than revolutionaries," so that now people of the Reformed tradition are "more expressive of John Stuart Mill [and the Enlightenment in general] than of John Calvin" and the Reformation. "We need to stop believing so much in reason, he argues, and more in "wisdom." (Your reporter assumes he wasn't talking about Sophia here.)


Some very subjective reflections:

This guy is clearly not one of the Presbyterian crowd. He is not obsessed with sex, as far as I could tell. He is passionately committed to welcoming people into the family of faith as he understands it, and in motivating others to move out of the safety of their "church life" into the world. Not a bad idea, seems to me.

That stands in sharp contrast to the concerns a lot of people bring to this gathering. Not all of them, I'm sure, and perhaps not all the planners of the event; but those concerns are here - being talked about over breakfast this morning, and clearly on the agenda for the rest of today. Some of the workshops this afternoon will look at topics like "Correcting Wrongdoing: Ways to Discipline Defiance," "Faithful Stewardship: Deciding Whether to Give Per Capita & Mission Money to the PCUSA," and of course "Negotiated Separation: A Conversation."

My own sense is that McManus represented clearly one style of evangelical Christianity that many in this gathering want very much to exhibit in their own churches - and many are already doing that. That stands in sharp contrast to the concerns of many others, who are more concerned with building walls and enforcing laws, in excluding rather than welcoming.

But we'll see how all that plays out today.

One other thing: A Witherspooner might be a bit nervous about venturing into this gathering. Such anxiety is unfounded, as far as I can see. People are welcoming, helpful, and many of them seem to be looking seriously for ways to stay together in the Presbyterian family. We'll see how it looks by this time tomorrow.

 

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