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Presbytery action on validation of Parker Williamson's ministry:
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Following the action of the Presbytery of Western North Carolina to withdraw the validation of the ministry of the Rev. Parker Williamson with the Presbyterian Lay Committee, we have received a number of comments, which we will share here as soon as their authors have given full permission.

You may want to look at our report on the Presbytery action.

We received this note on Feb. 2, 2004.

[Quoting from our report:]

An amendment was then offered by the Rev. Pete Peery, pastor at First Presbyterian Church in Asheville. It would have affirmed the COM recommendation that Williamson's ministry not be validated, while softening the action by continuing him on the roll of presbytery as a member at large. Williamson and his defenders argued against the amendment, apparently wanting a clear action by the presbytery to reject him and his ministry. According to the Layman Online, Mr. Williamson himself denounced the amendment as an "oily compromise."

Does Mr. Williamson really not understand how comments like this damage his credibility? I see this amendment as a pastoral attempt to keep him in relationship with his presbytery. "Oily compromise"? I think Mr. Williamson does indeed work outside the bounds of the church in order to destroy it. Sad.

Molly Douthett
Waterford, VA

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Barbara Bever of Kansas City, Missouri, comments on the action of Western North Carolina Presbytery in light of current issues in Heartland Presbytery:


What is happening in Heartland involves a financial pinch that has become severe in the last 2 years and the Presbytery council which decided to pass a resolution that it would no longer sign off on applications to borrow money (CDC or other sources) nor would it sign off on applications either for Presbytery funds or

General Assembly funds for any church which was not paying it's per-capita. There were a couple of other routine requirements, like making and paying a mission pledge of some amount, keeping their terms of call paperwork up to date and their statistical reports and the like, generally keeping the tie-ties tied and "fully participating" in the life of the larger church.

You can imagine the hue and cry that ensued when this was presented to the Presbytery, and one of the larger suburban churches which wants to build and needs the Presbytery's okey-dokey to borrow the money, all the while withholding their per-capita in protest of whatever their current issue is, has filed a judicial case against the Presbytery, alleging I am not sure what.(Imagine!)

One of the pastors had the "chutzpah" to stand up in a Presbytery meeting and say that the answer to the whole problem was "just don't pay" the per-capita (!) Right, tell the General Assembly that the whole of Heartland Presbytery supports this" political protest" about whatever the current issue is. I, for one, think not, thank you very much.

I have had the experience of the shoe being on the other foot, a misworded ad in the paper made it appear that the whole Presbytery was supporting something which they were not. One of those situations where the perception serves to create the reality, just like this "just don't pay it" approach would do. And no one yelled louder about this than these very self-same people who are now claiming that they are being discriminated against. Funny how that happens.

One wants to say, oh, do come along, what is sauce for the proverbial goose. . .

The larger issue, of course, is really about the structure of the connectional nature of the denomination, and, this is coming up in Heartland again in February when Presbytery next meets. I do hope it does not become like the ordination issue and just remain chronically unresolved, but it does look like it might.

If Williamson and his co-religionists succeed in keeping presbytery after presbytery tangled up in these kinds of discussions, what happens to the denomination, does it just fall in on itself like a house of cards.

Dear God, save the church from these people.

Best regards,

Barbara Bever
Kansas City, Missouri


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GA actions ratified (or not) by  the presbyteries   

A number of the most important actions of the 219th General Assembly have now been acted upon by the presbyteries, confirming most of them as amendments to the PC(USA) Book of Order.

We provided resources to help inform the reflection and debate, along with updates on the voting.

Our three areas of primary interest have been:

bullet Amendment 10-A, which  removes the current ban on lesbian/gay/bisexual/transgender persons being considered as possible candidates for ordination as elder or ministers.  Approved!

bullet Amendment 10-2, which would add the Belhar Confession to our Book of Confessions.  Disapproved, because as an amendment to the Book of Confessions it needed a 2/3 vote, and did not receive that.

bullet Amendment 10-1, which  adopts the new Form of Government that was approved by the Assembly.   Approved.
 

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PVJ's Facebook page

Mitch Trigger, PVJ's Secretary/Communicator, has created a Facebook page where Witherspoon members and others can gather to exchange news and views. Mitch and a few others have posted bits of news, both personal and organizational. But there’s room for more!

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Voices of Sophia blog

Heather Reichgott, who has created this new blog for Voices of Sophia, introduces it:

After fifteen years of scholarship and activism, Voices of Sophia presents a blog. Here, we present the voices of feminist theologians of all stripes: scholars, clergy, students, exiles, missionaries, workers, thinkers, artists, lovers and devotees, from many parts of the world, all children of the God in whose image women are made. .... This blog seeks to glorify God through prayer, work, art, and intellectual reflection. Through articles and ensuing discussion we hope to become an active and thoughtful community.

 

John Harris’ Summit to Shore blogspot

Theological and philosophical reflections on everything between summit to shore, including kayaking, climbing, religion, spirituality, philosophy, theology, politics, culture, travel, The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), New York City and the Queens neighborhood of Ridgewood by a progressive New York City Presbyterian Pastor. John is a former member of the Witherspoon board, and is designated pastor of North Presbyterian Church in Flushing, NY.

 

John Shuck’s Shuck and Jive

A Presbyterian minister, currently serving as pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Elizabethton, Tenn., blogs about spirituality, culture, religion (both organized and disorganized), life, evolution, literature, Jesus, and lightening up.

 

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