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General Assembly 2004
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| Overture to remove some barriers to
LGBT Presbyterians is rejected by 259 to 255
[7-2-04] Finally this afternoon, the report of the
Committee on Church Orders and Ministry came to the plenary session of the
Assembly. The committee recommended the approval of the overture from
Western Reserve presbytery, which would have made all Authoritative
Interpretations (AIs) relating to homosexuality not mandatory as criteria
for determining the fitness of candidates for ordination. A minority
report would simply have expressed support for the Task Force on the
Peace, Unity and Purity of the Church.
During the debate on the two reports, various effort
were made to gain consideration of other overtures which would have
removed G-6.0106b (the "fidelity and chastity" provision) from the Book of
Order, or would have gone further in removing the AIs from the Book of
Order.
In the crucial vote to make the minority report into the main motion, 259
commissioners voted Yes, and 255 voted No. The final vote to approve the
minority report - expressing support for the work of the Task Force and
doing nothing else - was 297 to 218.
Almost immediately after the vote, the afternoon session was adjourned. At
the invitation of Moderator Rick Ufford-Chase, those who felt the need to
lament their loss quietly left the Convention Center and gathered in a
plaza across the street. Others were invited to join them in a show of
solidarity and support.
As the circle grew and grew, including perhaps 350 people, folks joined in
a few quiet songs, a few remarks were made, and the Moderator offered his
own supportive comments, urging the people still excluded to "bear their
crosses" and continue the struggle for justice.
The Rev. Jane Spahr invited people to encourage their churches to light a
candle and keep it burning for the coming two years, until the next
General Assembly, in a quiet vigil for justice.
Marco Grimaldo led the gathering in
a closing litany, and the
event drew slowly to a close. Many remained in the plaza for another half
hour or more, talking, weeping, embracing, grieving for yet another loss,
and preparing, perhaps, to begin the struggle again.
If you have thoughts to share
on this sad day,
please share them here.
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Witherspooner testifies for ordination of lgbt Presbyterians
[posted 7-13-04]Many people lined up to speak
to the Committee on Church Orders and Ministry on Monday afternoon, June
28, as the committee began consideration of a number of overtures dealing
with the ban on ordination of LGBT Presbyterians.
More Light Presbyterians has the full text of three statements on its
website. They offer three very personal - and very profound - sets
of reasons for ending the Presbyterian Church's ban on ordination of LGBT
members. We offer one more point of view.
The Rev. John Harris, who has been elected as a new member-at-large of the
Witherspoon Society executive committee, was one of many people to testify
in the open hearing of the Committee on Church Orders and Ministry on
Monday afternoon.
Here's what he said in the 2 minutes allotted to each
speaker:
I am John Harris. I am a member of the Presbytery of
West Virginia, where I serve as the half-time pastor of a small church and
half-time Presbytery staff. One of my responsibilities as Presbytery staff
is to work with Pastor Nominating Committees.
Not long ago I was meeting with a PNC and a minister whom the PNC was
interested in nominating. The church is small congregation, barely able to
meet the Presbyterian minimum salary, and so far off the beaten path that
their pool of potential pastors is limited. The PNC want to nominate an
ordained minister to serve as pastor on a part-time basis, and I was
present at this meeting with the PNC and the minister to help them explore
a part-time call.
After the PNC and the minister agreed on the terms of call, the minister,
out of a sense of integrity, came out to the PNC.
After the minister left the meeting I continued meeting with the PNC,
which still wanted to nominate the minister but was afraid, too, because
that did not want to risk possible judicial action against the minister,
the church, or the presbytery. Members of the PNC said they suspected the
minister was homosexual and in a committed relationship, but they were not
sure until they were told directly by the minister himself.
I support the Twin Cities overture and urge you to recommend it to the
full Assembly as a response to all the overtures related to authoritative
interpretations. I support the Twin Cities overture, 04-49, because it
would remove the barriers that G-6.0106b, the Definitive Guidance, and
existing Authoritative Interpretations have place before faithful
Presbyterians like this PNC in West Virginia. They prevent them from
nominating otherwise qualified ministers of their choosing.
Removal of these barriers would help us solve the pastor shortage in the
Presbytery of West Virginia.
Do you have thoughts and experiences
that would lead to advocate for the removal
of G-6.0106b from the Presbyterian Book of Order?
Just send a
note
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| Committee on Church Orders
recommends removal of Authoritative Interpretations
[6-29-04] By a vote of 35 to 30,
the General Assembly's Committee on Church Orders and Ministry decided to
recommend that the Assembly remove all authoritative interpretations (AIs)
banning the ordination of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender persons
in the Presbyterian Church. The committee approved an overture from the
Presbytery of Western Reserve which proposes this change, thus rejecting
four other overtures, one of which would have removed both the AIs and
G-6.0106b, which does not mention homosexuality but requires "fidelity
within the covenant of marriage between a man and a woman or chastity in
singleness." One of the other overtures would have redefined a "covenant
relationship" to include committed same-sex relationships, while the
others offered variants on the "delete B" or the "remove the AIs options.
The other overtures were hardly discussed, because a
motion introduced at the beginning of the business session (following a
more freely structured discussion) focused on the Western Reserve
proposal.
Prior to the decisive vote, the committee rejected (by
34 to 30) a motion to take no action on the five overtures, instead
calling on the church to pray and to support the work of the work of the
Theological Task Force on Peace, Unity and Purity of the Church and its
call for church-wide dialogue.
For other reports on this action, you might look at
Presbyterian News
Service and
The Presbyterian Outlook. |
Moving testimony provides information
for voting on ordination
[6-30-04]
More Light
Presbyterians report on three of the statements given in testimony to
the Committee on Church Orders and Ministry, before they began discussion
on the five overtures proposing various actions to limit or ends the ban
on ordination of lesbian, gay, transgender and bisexual Presbyterians. |
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GA actions
ratified (or not) by the presbyteries
A number of the most important actions of the 219th
General Assembly have now been acted upon by the presbyteries,
confirming most of them as amendments to the PC(USA) Book of Order.
We provided resources to help inform the
reflection and debate, along with updates on the voting.
Our three areas of primary interest have been:
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Amendment 10-A,
which removes the current ban on
lesbian/gay/bisexual/transgender persons being considered as
possible candidates for ordination as elder or ministers.
Approved! |
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Amendment 10-2,
which would add the Belhar Confession to our Book of
Confessions. Disapproved, because as an amendment
to the Book of Confessions it needed a 2/3 vote, and did not
receive that. |
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Amendment
10-1, which adopts the new Form of Government
that was approved by the Assembly. Approved. |
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