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After Hezbollah visit ...
two staffers fired

Letting your voice be heard ... on staff dismissals and on divestment

Many Presbyterians have been concerned about the abrupt dismissal of two national staff people in November, 2004, and about threats to the PC(USA)'s long-standing program for responsible investment.  We've gathered some suggestions for people whom you might contact to let your thoughts be made known to those most directly involved.   [2-15-05]

The staff firings: procedural vs. substantive "due process"

Gordon Shull of Wooster, Ohio, has commented before on the dismissal of two national staff members. We recently reported on the action of the General Assembly Council concluding that the dismissal was carried out according to proper procedures. Dr. Shull responds to this statement by pointing out that the important questions which he raised earlier have not been touched -- and notes that what may looks like a "whitewash" will not serve the church well.   [2-8-05]

Review team calls Detterick's actions 'fully compliant'

Committee upholds process for staff firings

The General Assembly Council (GAC) Personnel Subcommittee has found that Executive Director John Detterick acted properly when he terminated two high-level PC(USA) employees in November.

This report includes statements by the GAC subcommittee and by the Advisory Committee on Social Witness Policy, which states "ACSWP believes there can be very little healing and reconciliation without justice in matters of personnel policy."   [2-1-05]

Mary Ann Lundy urges protest against dismissals of Lueckert and Sulyok   [12-14-04]

Mary Ann Lundy, formerly a member of the staff of the General Assembly Council, and of the World Council of Churches, sent a note to progressive friends about a month ago, and it has just found its way to us. She speaks as one who's been there, done that. Or had that done to her, since she was fired from her GAC position in the aftermath of the 1993 ReImagining Conference.

Syrian and Lebanese church upset by PCUSA firings

The Evangelical Synod of Syria and Lebanon sent a message to the Presbyterian Church (USA) warning that churches abroad are interpreting a decision to fire two top officials as buckling to appease the U.S. Jewish community that is already angered by a General Assembly action. 
[12-8-04]

Some questions and concerns about this action are shared by Gordon Shull -- questions about what happened, and concerns about values such as seeking to communicate with the one called "enemy," and about our integrity as a church when we allow the government or other groups to dictate the terms of our working for peace and justice.   [12-7-04]
Two staffers gone in wake of Hezbollah meeting

GAC deputy executive Lueckert, ACSWP coordinator Sulyok are out

by Alexa Smith, Presbyterian News Service

We've received a comment responding to this report.

LOUISVILLE -- November 11, 2004 -- [posted here 11-15-04]   Two key Presbyterian Church (USA) staff members were apparently fired early this morning by General Assembly Council (GAC) Executive Director John Detterick -- with no clear public explanation for their departures.

According to a memo released this morning, Kathy Lueckert, the deputy executive associate director of the GAC, the governing body of the church's mission program agency, and the Rev. Peter Sulyok, coordinator of the Advisory Committee on Social Witness Policy (ACSWP), are no longer employed by the GAC.

Leuckert has served the denomination for five years, Sulyok for nearly twelve.

Lueckert supervised Sulyok and both were members of an ACSWP fact-finding delegation to the Middle East last month that included a televised meeting with Hezbollah, an organization that is on the U.S. government's watch list of terrorist groups.

The meeting and its widespread airing on Arabic television drew immediate protest from Jewish groups and from some within the PC(USA).

In a memo released to GAC staff, Detterick implied that legal reasons prevent disclosing why the two staffers are no longer employed by the PC(USA). He said that he intends to begin searching for an interim deputy executive director before the year's end. Staff under Luekert's supervision will temporarily report to Detterick.

Oversight of ASCWP has been delegated to the Rev. Curtis Kearns, the director of the PC(USA)'s National Ministries Division.

Detterick's other published comments were succinct:

"It is with sadness that I tell you that Kathy Lueckert's tenure as deputy executive director has come to an end today. Kathy has made contributions to the work of the GAC and for that I will always be very grateful … I am also sorry to tell you that Peter Sulyok is leaving the GAC. Peter, too, has contributed much, especially to the work of ACSWP."

He concluded, "I know these decisions raise many questions for staff, but please realize that all staff have the right to confidentiality regarding their employment. Therefore, this is all I can say. I am keeping Kathy and Peter in my prayers and hope you will also."

Detterick told the Presbyterian New Service that it is not appropriate to comment further on personnel matters.

The Oct. 14 meeting in southern Lebanon between the ACSWP-led delegation and Hezbollah leaders was immediately declared "misguided" by top leadership here and comments made by Ron Stone, a Pittsburgh elder and member of the delegation, were described as "reprehensible" by Dettrick and others in a post-meeting letter to Jewish organizations pleading with them to remain in dialogue with the PC(USA).

Read the text of the letter, and a report on the visit to Hezbollah.

Stated Clerk Clifton Kirkpatrick and Rick Ufford-Chase, the moderator of the 216th General Assembly, also signed the letter.

The PC(USA) has just begun dialogue with major Jewish organizations who want the denomination to overturn the 216th General Assembly's decision to selectively divest itself of stock held in multinational corporations who profit from the Israeli occupation of Palestine unless those companies change their business practices.

Stone's remarks came after the group toured the Khiam Detention Center, a former Israeli prison and torture site in southern Lebanon, which is now a Hezbollah-run museum and memorial.

In a joint press conference, Stone thanked Hezbollah for "goodwill" it had expressed toward the American people and he added, "As an elder of our church, I'd like to say that according to my recent experience, relations and conversations with Islamic leaders are a lot easier than dealings and dialogue with Jewish leaders."

News of the meeting and Stone's comments drew immediate condemnation from Jewish groups.

As Detterick's top deputy, Lueckert carried oversight responsibility for several major GAC operations, including communication, mission funding, human resources, social policy development, women's and racial ethnic concerns, and its legal and research arms.

Prior to working for the PC(USA), Lueckert spent 15 years in local government. Her family tree includes Presbyterian ministers reaching back 10 generations.

A clergyman, Sulyok has headed the PC(USA)'s social policy development since February, 1993. He graduated from Princeton Theological Seminary in 1980 and did post-graduate work there.

He was a pastor for seven years in Binghamton, NY, and did interim work in New Jersey while he studied at Princeton.

 

A comment on the dismissal of staffers   [11-18-04]

Dear Doug,

Thank you for the good work you do in assimilating and publishing all the information that you get. There is one particular bit of news that I wish to comment on.

In regards to the firing of the two GA staff persons for meeting with the Palestinian delegation, I am extremely disappointed with their dismissal. Finally we are doing something that our government has been unable or unwilling to do, and our Presbyterian leaders disavow an authentic 'good news' initiative in peacemaking. In my opinion, we should commend them for their courage rather than condemn it so readily.

Seemingly we are a declining church torn into two if not more divisions of the 'saluting red, white and blue Christians,' the 'save the bureaucracy' Christians, and the 'do something for the world' Christians. I hope that the Witherspoon Society will encourage readers to offer their critique and proposals for a church that would be willing to risk its life for the sake of an authentic gospel in a world obsessed with 'partial reality.'

Jerry Little
Bainbridge, Ga.

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GA actions ratified (or not) by  the presbyteries   

A number of the most important actions of the 219th General Assembly have now been acted upon by the presbyteries, confirming most of them as amendments to the PC(USA) Book of Order.

We provided resources to help inform the reflection and debate, along with updates on the voting.

Our three areas of primary interest have been:

bullet Amendment 10-A, which  removes the current ban on lesbian/gay/bisexual/transgender persons being considered as possible candidates for ordination as elder or ministers.  Approved!

bullet Amendment 10-2, which would add the Belhar Confession to our Book of Confessions.  Disapproved, because as an amendment to the Book of Confessions it needed a 2/3 vote, and did not receive that.

bullet Amendment 10-1, which  adopts the new Form of Government that was approved by the Assembly.   Approved.
 

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John Shuck’s Shuck and Jive

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