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Toward peace in Israel/Palestine
A continuing conversation |
| More discussion on "Steps toward
peace in Israel and Palestine,"
a report by Arch Taylor on a conference sponsored by the Office of the
General Assembly, February 10-12, 2005
[3-7-05]
We recently posted Arch Taylor’s summary of a
discussion on Israel and Palestine, which focused on concerns expressed
about the possibility of divestment of some PS(USA) investments in companies
providing support for the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories.
We received one brief
note from Will Spotts, objecting to some
of Taylor’s statements, along with comments by Sara Lisherness of the
Presbyterian Peace Program, as showing lack of respect for Jewish statements
and attitudes.
A longer comment came
from Robert Hardage of New York, taking issue with Taylor’s
characterization of the group Rabbis for Human Rights, and some of his
descriptions of the State of Israel in general. Dr.
Taylor has responded to that note, and Mr. Hardage
has offered further elaboration of his views.
A note from your WebWeaver:
I find this conversation between two
well-informed people, apparently of good will, both helpful in its content
and exemplary in its tone.
In reading through the dialogue between
Robert Hardage and Arch Taylor, as someone who was not at the meeting in
Louisville, and has not been familiar with Rabbis for Human Rights, I had a
little trouble understanding the message of RHR as depicted in their two
notes. In reading the material on the RHR web site, I infer that they are
calling for the respect of human rights of both Israelis and
Palestinians, and are criticizing the Presbyterian action not so much for
its support of Palestinian rights, as for what they see as an unwillingness
to respect the rights of Israelis in the same way. But I stand open to
further clarification!
Doug King
From Robert Hardage
In his report on the Presbyterian divestment conference, Mr. Arch Taylor
wrote that a leader of the group "Rabbis for Human Rights" spoke via
telephone. Mr. Taylor reports that the organization Rabbis for Human Rights
is considered by mainstream Jews to be a "fringe group", and that these
mainstream Jews "don't want people to hear their voices." So please allow me
to help members of the Witherspoon Society hear the fringe voices of Rabbis
for Human Rights.
In an article written two weeks ago, the founder of Rabbis for Human
Rights called the Presbyterian's divestment decision "a not so subtle form
of anti-Semitism that must be condemned." David Forman asked "[w]hy single
out Israel? Simply because the Presbyterian Church and the World Council of
Churches, in their prejudicial and unbalanced statements of divestment from
Israel, believe they are elevating their own moral self-worth."
Rabbis for
Human Rights has a website. On its front page it asks readers to "[j]oin
us in protesting unequal treatment towards the Jewish People. The
Presbyterian Church (USA) 216th General Assembly voted July 2, 2004 on
numerous resolutions regarding the Jewish People and the conflict in the
Middle East, including starting a process of a phased and selective
divestment of its nearly $8 billion portfolio from select Israel-related
firms. Rabbis for Human Rights feels that a notable lackof empathy
characterizes these resolutions. In our ongoing dialogue with the
Presbyterian Church we stress that the human rights of Jews to respectful,
equal treatment should be dear to the hearts of all who call upon the Name
of the Creator."
Mr. Taylor concludes his review of the conference by stating that "[w]hat
got the Jewish attention was money." Not double standards, moral truth, one
sidedness or unfair demonization of a tiny state surrounding by enemies -
no, it is money that is behind Jewish complaints. It seems that what you
call the "progessive perspective" is informed by beliefs that most humane
and civilized people abandoned a long time ago. One does not have to be a
"Rabbi for Human Rights" to recognize bigotry, ignorance and hatred.
Robert Hardage, New York
Dr. Taylor has sent a reply
Dear Robert Hardage
Thank you for sending me a copy of your letter to Doug King.
In my report, I stated that because of my hearing impairment and the poor
reception, I was not able to hear Rabbi Ascherman's message, which I greatly
regret. I respect RHR and their work on behalf of the Palestinians' rights.
The term "fringe groups" originated from one of the more mainstream Jewish
groups with whom Presbyterians have most recently been in dialogue. It was
used to refer to some other Jewish organizations in both Israel and the USA,
that take a more critical stance toward Israel's policies. If RHR does not
belong in that category, I apologize.
When I was in Israel in October 2001 with the Presbyterian Peace
Fellowship Christian Peacemaker Team we met somebody from RHR (sorry, I
forget the name). We heard from Jeff Halper. I support TIKKUN and attended
their teach-in of Congress last year.
For myself personally, and I believe for the Presbyterian Church as a
body, there is a distinction between the political entity Israel on the one
hand and Judaism as a religious faith and Jewish people as a whole on the
other. I'm sorry of that offends Jews who wish to amalgamate them all, but I
can't help making a distinction. Through the prophet Samuel, God acceded to
Israel's request for a king, to be "like the nations (goyim)" and have a
king to fight their battles. In Samuel's description of what the king would
do, first and foremost was organizing an army. As I read the Bible, from
that time forward, Israel, as one among the nations (goyim), was involved in
war off and on ever since. I don't think God really wants God's people to be
like the goyim and fight wars. The rabbis who reconstituted Judaism after
the destruction of the second temple rejected from their canon the story of
the Maccabee's state with its violent response to Syrian oppression and
eventual corruption, and accepted the book of Daniel, with its non-violent
stance.
The modern state of Israel is clearly "like other nations" with one of
the most powerful military forces in the world (they take not only 'your
sons' for the army, but also 'your daughters'). They even have nuclear
weapons, as everybody knows, but they won't admit. As such a state, Israel
is obligated to follow the laws generally accepted by other nation states
and is subject to criticism and condemnation for failure to do so. That has
nothing to do with Jewish people as a whole or Judaism as such, except
insofar as Israel violates the principles of the Mosaic law and the prophets
on which Judaism is based (and also Christianity, in my view).
It is precisely on the basis of our biblical heritage of the law and the
prophets supplemented by the life and teaching of Jesus that the
Presbyterian church has not hesitated to criticise our own nation state the
USA for violations of human rights, though I admit that much more often than
I personally would prefer, the General Assembly has fallen in line with
nationalism rather than biblical faith.
As a Christian, without denying the Jews' prior claim to the status, I
believe the church also is considered a part of the people of God. In the
earliest centuries CE both Jews and Christians were countercultural
movements. Both were people, not nations. Since Constantine Christianity
became the religion and hence the supporter of the state, and I confess and
repent the terrible consequences that often had for Jews. I don't think God
wants either of God's people, Jews, Christians, or any others, to behave
like states.
Nearly every year for decades at the annual meeting of the General
Assembly, the Presbyterian Church has passed resolutions affirming the
rights of both Israelis and Palestinians to have independent, secure states
side by side. It has passed resolutions condemning Palestinian suicide
bombings and other acts of terrorism. It has supported UN resolutions
condemning Israel's acts that violate international law and human rights.
Year after year we passed such resolutions, and I don't think any of those
qualify as "one sidedness or unfair demonization of a tiny state surrounding
by enemies" to use your terms. Heretofore our Jewish brothers and sisters
did not raise any outcry or objection. Only when the question of the
possibility of divestment (not even any final decision to divest) arose, did
we have such a reaction. Why just now, and not before?
When I personally express criticism for the state of Israel, I try to do
so in full conformity with the RHR closing statement:
In our ongoing dialogue with the Presbyterian Church we stress that the
human rights of Jews to respectful, equal treatment should be dear to the
hearts of all who call upon the Name of the Creator.
Again, thanks for giving me an opportunity to respond. If you wish to
continue this dialogue, I welcome it.
For peace,
Arch Taylor
Robert Hardage responds:
Thank you for your honest response. While I too am a follower of Jesus
Christ, I have taken the time to understand the feelings of my Jewish
friends and neighbors. You state that "[f]or myself personally, and I
believe for the Presbyterian Church as a body, there is a distinction
between the political entity Israel on the one hand and Judaism as a
religious faith and Jewish people as a whole on the other." Of course you
are entitled to your beliefs, but to the Jewish people, Israel is and has
been at the heart of the Jewish faith - in its prayers, longings and hopes
for thousands of years. You may as well walk up to an Italian friend and say
"I love Italians but would like to see Italy wiped off the face of the
earth". He probably wouldn't consider you a friend after that.
Later you argue that "Israel is obligated to follow the laws generally
accepted by other nation states and is subject to criticism and condemnation
for failure to do so." Amen. The issue to most of our Jewish brothers and
sisters is not criticism of Israeli policy and politicians (the Jewish and
Israeli press is replete with it) but double standards and selective
indignation. Had your resolution called for divestment against all states
which are in violation of international law (including the genocidal
Sudanese, the Russian butchers of Chechnya, the Chinese occupiers of Tibet,
the woman-oppressing Saudis and the Syrian and Libyan dictatorships) you
would have little or no response from the Jewish community. However, when
you claim to support universal values but only go after the Jewish state, it
is as if a Klansman claims that he condemns all crime, but only wants to
talk about crimes committed by blacks. It reeks of bigotry.
Finally, you ask "[o]nly when the question of the possibility of
divestment (not even any final decision to divest) arose, did we have such a
reaction. Why just now, and not before?" The fact that you have to ask this
question means that you understand little of the recent history of the
region of the Jewish people. Divestment has been an element of the war
against Israel since day 1. The creation of Israel was met almost
immediately with the creation by the Arab League of a Central Boycott Office
in Damascus, Syria. From there list of companies doing business with Israel
were compiled and these companies were given an ultimatum - join our boycott
of Israel or you will not be allowed to trade with the far more numerous and
populous state of the Arab world. Most major companies joined the Arab
boycott. Later the boycott was extended not just to include companies that
do business with Israel, but to those companies that do business with
companies that do business with Israel - a secondary boycott. The goal of
Arab League was clear - to cripple Israel economically and hasten its
destruction. The Jewish experience with boycotts goes well beyond the Arab
boycott. In the early 1930's, the Nazis often paraded before Jewish-owned
stops demanding that Germans no longer do business with Jews. And on a
personal level many American Jews still remember times of university and
business quotas and other limitations of Jewish participation in the social
and economic life of the country.
While you may argue that divestment is not the same as boycott, or that
the divestment is just being considered, please understand that these
distinctions are meaningless. The actions you took were highly charged with
meaning and symbolism - it is as if you waved a noose in front of a black
man and said that we are considering lynching you, but we haven't made up
our minds yet.
Best wishes,
Robert Hardage, New York
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