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Torture:
New Rules from the White House

Comments on the US use of torture, and Bush’s new interrogation policy  [7-28-07]

A week ago, President Bush set broad legal boundaries for the CIA's harsh interrogation of terrorism suspects yesterday, allowing the intelligence agency to resume a program that was suspended last year after criticism that it violated U.S. and international law. (But he won’t tell us what those boundaries are.)

We offer here a variety of reports and comments on this important action, including an early report from the Washington Post; a faith-based reflection from the Rev. Carol Wickersham, of No2Torture; an analysis by Retired Gen. P. X. Kelley, who served as commandant of the Marine Corps from 1983 to 1987 under President Reagan; and a consideration of a "Declaration Against Torture" put forth some four months ago by 17 leading evangelicals, saying torture is always wrong – and the criticisms leveled at them by other evangelicals.

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Bush approves new CIA methods

Interrogations of detainees to resume

Read the Washington Post report on Bush’s action, dated July 21, 2007 ..

It begins:

President Bush set broad legal boundaries for the CIA's harsh interrogation of terrorism suspects yesterday, allowing the intelligence agency to resume a program that was suspended last year after criticism that it violated U.S. and international law.

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One Presbyterian's response

On Sunday, July 22, just two days after the President’s order was announced, the Rev. Carol Wickersham of No2Torture posted these faith-based reflections on the No2Torture e-list:


Dear Friends,

I feel a sense of urgency to respond to yesterday's Executive Order by President Bush. This order interprets Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions vis-a-vis CIA interrogations.

While much of the rhetoric in this Order is welcome, it is important to understand that it is just that -- rhetoric. The Order changes nothing. It does not have the force of law; Congress has made it clear that torture is always illegal, and what constitutes torture is defined by law, not by the President. In addition, yesterday's order does not reveal which interrogation techniques are considered by the President to be allowable; thus, it is impossible to know if these fall within legal limits. And, even if they did, the President has assumed power -- that is not his -- to change these definitions at will. It is this lack of definition that has led to our nation's current ethical quagmire regarding the treatment of detainees. This new Order puts our troops at greater risk by sending the message to our enemies that these unspecified "enhanced interrogation techniques" can be used without violating international agreements. Furthermore, this order furthers the Military Commissions Act by strengthening preemptive immunity for those who who give or implement orders to torture.

Now, there may be those who say that such critiques are essentially political and not faith-based. I would say that it is impossible to read the gospel and not draw the conclusion that Jesus condemned, in the harshest and most straight-forward language, the hypocrisy and legalistic maneuverings of those in power when that power was used to inflict suffering on the powerless -- and certainly those held as detainees are currently powerless. They may have committed crimes (though without a fair trial we will never know) -- but they are also currently powerless. Remember, the authorities of Jesus' day also invoked national security concerns. Remember Caiaphas' words that "for the sake of the nation one person must die." It was simple cost-benefit analysis and simply wrong. Remember that Jesus was tortured to death because he was seen as a threat.

In some ways the moral issue could not be more simple. Torture is wrong, always wrong. (For five cogent theological reasons, see David Gushee's analysis printed in Christianity Today.) In other ways, the issue is nuanced and complex. As people of faith we wade into the complexities in order to witness to what is simple. Thus, my sense is that, in responding to this new Executive Order, we must continue to press for what we have pressed for all along:

1) Without habeas corpus, there is no justice. This is a bottom line requirement. Unless detainees can hear the charges against them, there is no defense.

2) Defining what constitutes torture and who can be held in detention (e.g. "enemy combatants") is the prerogative of Congress as set forth in law and interpreted by the courts. It is the Executive's job to implement, not define. This is the wisdom of the Constitution; it takes into account the corrupting nature of human power. Signing statements that flaunt this intention, that thwart the very laws the signature purportedly enacts, are hypocrisy at its worst. Several sermons could be preached about Jesus' treatment of hypocrites, but this is not the place and I am not the person.

3) Secrecy rarely protects us, and often endangers us. "Nothing is covered up that will not be uncovered, and nothing secret that will not be known. Therefore, what you have said in the dark will be heard in the light and what you have whispered behind closed doors will be proclaimed from the housetops." (Luke 12:2-3) Does this mean that we cannot have national security secrets? Of course not. It means that even those secrets must be subject to independent oversight -- again, checks and balances. In another sphere yesterday, there was movement in a positive direction as the courts stated that detainees and their attorneys must have access to previously secret accusatory information.

4) All who give orders, as well as those who follow orders must be held accountable. It is hubris and beyond dangerous to set forth the proposition that some people are exempt from the law so they can "do their job." Furthermore, as Abraham Heschel said, "In a democracy, a few are guilty but all are responsible." Friends, that means us.

5) All of our actions and advocacy must be motivated out of love for God and our neighbors, especially those neighbors who are at our mercy -- whatever labels we give them. We need to remember that as we debate, the suffering continues unabated.

There is a lot more to be added, and I trust that in the days ahead we will have those conversations. I write this today because so much is in play; thus, we must be "wise as serpents and gentle as doves" -- not an easy stance in the best of times, and a stance always attempted with utmost humility, but also assumed with utmost confidence in God's power and grace.

pax, Carol

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Analysis

War crimes and the White House

President Bush's new interrogation policy could subject him to prosecution for war crimes, according to Retired Gen. P.X. Kelley who served as commandant of the Marine Corps from 1983 to 1987 under President Reagan. He adds that this act "has compromised our national honor and that may well promote the commission of war crimes by Americans and place at risk the welfare of captured American military forces for generations to come."

Read the article in the Washington Post. >>

Thanks to Bruce Gillette

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An Evangelical Call on Torture and the U.S.

Peter Steinfels of the New York Times examines the statement issued four months ago by 17 prominent evangelical leaders and scholars, called "An Evangelical Declaration Against Torture: Protecting Human Rights in an Age of Terror." He reports on the opposition to the statement by a number of other evangelicals, including Mark D. Tooley, a leader in the neoconservative Institute on Religion and Democracy, who dismissed the declaration as the work of "pseudo-pacifist academics and antiwar activists" who were contributing to "a barely disguised crusade against the U.S. war against terror."

The full article >>      [You may be asked to register to access the full article, but it’s free.]

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