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Candidates for Moderator respond to questions:

The Rev. Andy Sale

[5-15-01]

Question:  In the debate about Amendment O, it has been argued that the recently adopted G-6.0106b reflects "essential" parts of our polity and should therefore be applied to our theology about marriage. What would you say are the "essential tenets" of the Reformed tradition (not just "from the book," but from your own convictions!), and how do they guide you in dealing with G-6.0106b?



In my opinion, the "essential tenets" of the Reformed tradition theologically are found in the Apostles Creed, mediated by Calvin's insistence on the sovereignty of God and sin as a condition of humankind, and grace interpreted by Paul as a covenant gift of God in Christ and understood through faith revealed in Scriptures within the Holy Spirit,

 

In polity, our central function is to discern corporately God's sovereign will among us as sinful people, seeking together "through a glass dimly" with civil discussion and prayerful reflection on our confessions and Scriptures how God would have us act and believe.

 

The issue of G-6.0106b is how and what to confess as sin before our God and our brothers and sisters in Christ. Our church has defined "through a glass dimly" among other things the standard of chastity in singleness and fidelity in marriage as God's righteous will for us. Acknowledgment and confession of sinful action is sought for those who seek to be ordained. Our human sexuality is a gift of God, but also a gift which can be mis-used in all relationships which God seeks to reconcile in Christ.

 

Question:  In light of recent demands that our GAC affirm Christ as the only way to salvation, how might we reconcile the statements in our confessions that say God's love extends to all people, with other statements that say salvation is only through Christ?



God's love is offered to the world as revealed and effected in the life, death and resurrection of Jesus the Christ. Salvation is a redeemed state offered to all people by God in sovereign grace, a condition which we are unable to attain ourselves. All other sources fall short of God's full reconciling work. God's prevenient grace is extended in metaphor, simile, analogy and general revelation in many forms to and through all people, but it is only fulfilled and effectual in the grace of God in Christ Jesus. How God fulfills the salvation of those who have never heard the good news in Jesus Christ is God's mystery which I believe is one of grace also.



Therefore interfaith conversations with other religious traditions are not times to condemn and judge, but rather opportunities to listen lovingly and to present winsomely our witness to the grace of God in Christ Jesus.



Question:  The 213th General Assembly will begin with a workshop on racism. Do you believe that racism is a real problem in our Presbyterian Church? How would you move us toward fulfilling the mandates of recent Assemblies to develop more racial-ethnic congregations?



Yes, I believe that racism is a real problem in our Presbyterian Church. Our Presbyterian outreach must be more open to the rich racial ethnic heritage growing around us as well as more vigilant to the caustic preconceived notions of racial superiority and ethnic separation.

 

It is difficult for us to overcome the cultural perception that the Presbyterian tradition in America is basically white, northern European and comfortable in that heritage. There are notable places, however, where new church developments and redevelopments are creating multi-cultural and cross-racial Presbyterian congregations.



I believe that we have much yet to learn from our worldwide Presbyterian partners about the rich racial diversity within our own reformed traditions, as well as from other denominations who have been more successful in outreach to racial ethnic members.



My prayer for our denomination and for our world is that we will grasp how God has created us with cultural diversity and racial uniqueness for the welfare of our faith community and for strengthening our human endeavors, not for discord and dissension.



Question:  Questions of sexuality continue to dominate our life as a church. Do you see any creative ways to work through these questions? Is there a "third way" that you would encourage us to follow?

 

I am proud to have signed the "third way" proposal. To some it may seem to be a political ploy to delay further action until a majority can be attained on one side or the other. To others it could be a meaningless gesture amidst a hopelessly divided church.



From my perspective, the "third way" invites an environment among us as a church to listen to God within our different interpretations of scriptures, theology and our human condition. The task is essentially to discern in our sessions and presbyteries what is blessed of God and what is not, rather than exhausting constitutional debates and judicial proceedings.



The plurality of our culture confounds our thinking much less our listening to one another. A "third way" seeks a covenant and discipline for listening without preconceiving who is right and who is wrong. Promising "not to leave the table" addresses the discussion by some of the need to divide the church. A "third way" asks the best from us as Presbyterians, to seek "the peace and unity" of the church as we discern its "purity."



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GA actions ratified (or not) by  the presbyteries   

A number of the most important actions of the 219th General Assembly have now been acted upon by the presbyteries, confirming most of them as amendments to the PC(USA) Book of Order.

We provided resources to help inform the reflection and debate, along with updates on the voting.

Our three areas of primary interest have been:

bullet Amendment 10-A, which  removes the current ban on lesbian/gay/bisexual/transgender persons being considered as possible candidates for ordination as elder or ministers.  Approved!

bullet Amendment 10-2, which would add the Belhar Confession to our Book of Confessions.  Disapproved, because as an amendment to the Book of Confessions it needed a 2/3 vote, and did not receive that.

bullet Amendment 10-1, which  adopts the new Form of Government that was approved by the Assembly.   Approved.
 

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Some blogs worth visiting

PVJ's Facebook page

Mitch Trigger, PVJ's Secretary/Communicator, has created a Facebook page where Witherspoon members and others can gather to exchange news and views. Mitch and a few others have posted bits of news, both personal and organizational. But there’s room for more!

You can post your own news and views, or initiate a conversation about a topic of interest to you.

 

Voices of Sophia blog

Heather Reichgott, who has created this new blog for Voices of Sophia, introduces it:

After fifteen years of scholarship and activism, Voices of Sophia presents a blog. Here, we present the voices of feminist theologians of all stripes: scholars, clergy, students, exiles, missionaries, workers, thinkers, artists, lovers and devotees, from many parts of the world, all children of the God in whose image women are made. .... This blog seeks to glorify God through prayer, work, art, and intellectual reflection. Through articles and ensuing discussion we hope to become an active and thoughtful community.

 

John Harris’ Summit to Shore blogspot

Theological and philosophical reflections on everything between summit to shore, including kayaking, climbing, religion, spirituality, philosophy, theology, politics, culture, travel, The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), New York City and the Queens neighborhood of Ridgewood by a progressive New York City Presbyterian Pastor. John is a former member of the Witherspoon board, and is designated pastor of North Presbyterian Church in Flushing, NY.

 

John Shuck’s Shuck and Jive

A Presbyterian minister, currently serving as pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Elizabethton, Tenn., blogs about spirituality, culture, religion (both organized and disorganized), life, evolution, literature, Jesus, and lightening up.

 

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