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Beloved, Let us Respect One Another

from Gordon Shull, elder of Wooster, Ohio, First Presbyterian Church

[8-30-01]

Confucius was right. "The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper names." As we consider together the General Assembly's proposed amendment to the Book of Order, it is vital that we understand what this amendment is and is not.

The issue is not how we shall interpret any passage of Scripture. Rather, it is about whether we can respect the great many faithful Presbyterians who, in good conscience, disagree with us. [emphasis added]

Two things have become very clear in the past twenty years. The first is that faithful Presbyterians disagree with each other on how to interpret Scripture, and whether to legislate about it. When presbyteries across the land voted on "Amendment B" some years ago, only 51% of the Commissioners voted to support it. 49% voted against it. In our own presbytery's votes on ordination issues, the majority has never been as high as 60%. Ours was the only presbytery in Ohio that supported Amendment B. A strong majority of presbyteries north of the Mason-Dixon line opposed it. This year not one, not ten, but 33 presbyteries submitted overtures to the General Assembly proposing to repeal or drastically revise it. Good faith has led us variously!

The second is that we will continue to disagree. Neither "side" is going to make large inroads in the other. We are all tempted to believe that "they" are stubborn or untutored - but in fact most of us have thought carefully about these matters and have come to reasoned, faithful conclusions. I must accept the fact that I will not convert most of my colleagues-in-Christ who read Scripture and the human experience differently than I do. No matter how eloquent my words, I will persuade very few.

How, then, shall we live with these two realities? We could succumb to the temptation to cram our own views down the throats of the many faithful Presbyterians who disagree. Or we could decide to respect each other's consciences. We could decide that our church is not well served when a small majority writes its views into law and commands everyone to obey. Rather, we will trust each Session to decide on the suitability of nominees for Deacon and Elder, and each Presbytery on the suitability of candidates for Minister of Word and Sacrament, and for admission to that Presbytery, just as we did for two centuries. We could realize that different bodies in our great church will come to different decisions on these matters, and that it is better to accept this diversity - as indeed we did before 1978 - than to coerce the conscience of any.

In other words, we could choose to practice mutual respect in the midst of disagreement. That is the challenge that the General Assembly sets before us. Mutual respect!

Lately the words of Rodney King - the black man beaten up by a gang of policemen, before our very eyes - have been ringing in my ears. "Can't we just get along?" Can't we respect one another and move on to bind the wounds of a broken world?

Let our motto be the words that adorned the entrance to a local church.

Here we enter into a fellowship.
Sometimes we will agree to differ.
Always we will resolve to love, and unite to serve.

The world awaits our united ministry. Together, in mutual respect, let us accept God's high calling!

 
 

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Some blogs worth visiting

PVJ's Facebook page

Mitch Trigger, PVJ's Secretary/Communicator, has created a Facebook page where Witherspoon members and others can gather to exchange news and views. Mitch and a few others have posted bits of news, both personal and organizational. But there’s room for more!

You can post your own news and views, or initiate a conversation about a topic of interest to you.

 

Voices of Sophia blog

Heather Reichgott, who has created this new blog for Voices of Sophia, introduces it:

After fifteen years of scholarship and activism, Voices of Sophia presents a blog. Here, we present the voices of feminist theologians of all stripes: scholars, clergy, students, exiles, missionaries, workers, thinkers, artists, lovers and devotees, from many parts of the world, all children of the God in whose image women are made. .... This blog seeks to glorify God through prayer, work, art, and intellectual reflection. Through articles and ensuing discussion we hope to become an active and thoughtful community.

 

John Harris’ Summit to Shore blogspot

Theological and philosophical reflections on everything between summit to shore, including kayaking, climbing, religion, spirituality, philosophy, theology, politics, culture, travel, The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), New York City and the Queens neighborhood of Ridgewood by a progressive New York City Presbyterian Pastor. John is a former member of the Witherspoon board, and is designated pastor of North Presbyterian Church in Flushing, NY.

 

John Shuck’s Shuck and Jive

A Presbyterian minister, currently serving as pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Elizabethton, Tenn., blogs about spirituality, culture, religion (both organized and disorganized), life, evolution, literature, Jesus, and lightening up.

 

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