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So you want to get involved in presbytery actions on Amendment A     (or any other amendment!)

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A recent visitor asked how she could do just that, so we tried to offer some answers. You may not need this, but you might want to share it with friends who haven't had as much experience as you have!

For one response to this page, click here.


Where can I get more information about my presbytery and how it does its work?

First, talk with the people who are most involved in these legislative processes: The Stated Clerk of your presbytery would be a good place to start, but other presbytery staff members might also be helpful. If you're really just beginning to get involved, a pastor of your own congregation or another one nearby would certainly be able to help.

In keeping with our representative government, presbyteries organize themselves in a variety of ways, as long as these are compatible with the Book of Order. The presbytery rules may be called the Standing Rules, or Manual of Operations, or a variety of things. Whatever they are called, the standing rules of the presbytery will detail many of the points mentioned below.

The Standing Rules of the General Assembly are good reading. You can find them on the PC(USA) web site, at http://horeb.pcusa.org/ga212/StandingRules/TOC.htm

How are overtures created?

Overtures can come from different routes, ranging from sessions transmitting overtures through presbyteries to commissioner's resolutions.

Overtures are created by Sessions and sent to their presbytery, or by presbyteries themselves, or by synods. Commissioners to presbytery or synod may also introduce overtures, but they are sent in the name of either the presbytery or synod. General Assembly entities (standing committees and other continuing bodies) can also send overtures (like this year's which would change chapter 14 in the Book of Order).

But here is a direct link to the section of the GA standing rules which deals with overtures:
http://horeb.pcusa.org/ga212/StandingRules/B.htm#Assembly%20Business



How are GA commissioners chosen?

Commissioners are elected by each presbytery, with an equal number of elders and ministers being chosen, along with alternate commissioners and youth advisory delegates. Many presbyteries have specific rules about who may be considered each year, to ensure some kind of rotation. Again, ask your Stated Clerk! The Standing Rules of the presbytery will state how commissioners are nominated.

The election of commissioners is covered in G-13.0102. Chapter 13 of the Book of Order, which covers G.A., is found online at:
http://horeb.pcusa.org/oga/Book_of_Order/FOG_Text_12-13.htm#G-13.0000%20Y


How are General Assembly committees organized?

The Assembly commissioners are each assigned (randomly, by computer) to one of some 15 committees, and all business, including overtures, is assigned to one of the committees. Since the committees only have two days to do their work, they aren't usually broken into sub-committees.

The standing rules of the General Assembly also cover committee organization.

How do presbyteries decide their vote on approving/rejecting amendments?

Each presbytery decides when it will vote on amendments - usually between November and April or sometimes May.

Many presbyteries have a Bills and Overtures Committee that reviews all the overtures, and makes recommendations on each one to the presbytery. Your Stated Clerk can tell you how it's done in your presbytery. In some presbyteries the committee will hold open hearings on overtures before deciding its recommendations. We would encourage such dialogue meeting, perhaps several of them in different parts of the presbytery and on different days of the week, so that all interested elders and ministers have an opportunity to see what the issues are from various perspectives. You may want to be there!

Witherspoon and other groups provide information on the issues as we see them - both on our web sites and in our newsletters.

The full presbytery then votes, and may accept or reject the recommendations, or might choose to defer action to a later meeting if there is a sense that the issues are not yet understood. Some may move to "take no action," but that is in effect a "No" vote on the motion.

 

Also, is there anywhere I can look up how my presbytery has voted on past amendments?

Your pastor may have that information, if he or she keeps old minutes of presbytery. Otherwise, ask the Stated Clerk of your presbytery. For tallies on the recent votes on matters of ordination, you can check two web sites: Covenant Network and PresbyWeb. They both have tables listing the votes by presbyteries on "Amendment B" in 1996, "Amendment A" in 1997, and Amendment O last year.

If you have suggestions to add to this little "Presbytery Policy-Making 101," please send a note!  And if you have questions, send them along too!

We have received one suggestion, that we include biblical and confessional foundations for such actions.  Check out the note, and our brief response.  And join in if you'd like to!

 

 
 

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Some blogs worth visiting

PVJ's Facebook page

Mitch Trigger, PVJ's Secretary/Communicator, has created a Facebook page where Witherspoon members and others can gather to exchange news and views. Mitch and a few others have posted bits of news, both personal and organizational. But there’s room for more!

You can post your own news and views, or initiate a conversation about a topic of interest to you.

 

Voices of Sophia blog

Heather Reichgott, who has created this new blog for Voices of Sophia, introduces it:

After fifteen years of scholarship and activism, Voices of Sophia presents a blog. Here, we present the voices of feminist theologians of all stripes: scholars, clergy, students, exiles, missionaries, workers, thinkers, artists, lovers and devotees, from many parts of the world, all children of the God in whose image women are made. .... This blog seeks to glorify God through prayer, work, art, and intellectual reflection. Through articles and ensuing discussion we hope to become an active and thoughtful community.

 

John Harris’ Summit to Shore blogspot

Theological and philosophical reflections on everything between summit to shore, including kayaking, climbing, religion, spirituality, philosophy, theology, politics, culture, travel, The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), New York City and the Queens neighborhood of Ridgewood by a progressive New York City Presbyterian Pastor. John is a former member of the Witherspoon board, and is designated pastor of North Presbyterian Church in Flushing, NY.

 

John Shuck’s Shuck and Jive

A Presbyterian minister, currently serving as pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Elizabethton, Tenn., blogs about spirituality, culture, religion (both organized and disorganized), life, evolution, literature, Jesus, and lightening up.

 

Got more blogs to recommend?

Please send a note, and we'll see what we can do!

 

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