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Just wear red: more comments

Another comment on the call for "wearing red"    [7-6-05]

I lost many friends in WW2. Many of my school mates put their education on hold to fight for their country..Many never came home..Those volunteers were willing to risk their lives. We lost 450,000 in that war.....Did that make FDR and Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, Douglas McArthur mass murderers?  

My son was in Viet Nam...He went voluntarily...He knew when he joined that it could mean fighting wars....Many lives were lost and my son was badly wounded ...Does that make Lyndon Johnson a mass murderer?

Because of the actions of John Kerry and Jane Fonda, my son was spat upon when he returned home. Soldiers from all other wars returned home to a heros welcome..Viet Nam vets returned to violent treatment by the very people they were fighting for. .

Kerry and Fonda headed up a group whose action led to the surrender of America. This was the only war, except for the war of 1812, that America ever lost. It led to the death of many Vietnamese years later.

When one joins the military they know that their job is fighting wars, just as those who join the fire department know that their duty will be to fight fires. ..To enlist for any other reason would be fraudulent..I sympathize with Nancy Walker.....It is because of her son and others like him that we enjoy the freedom that we have today...

Bonnie Wheeler
 

So why all this interest in wearing red?
 [6-28-05]


In May, 2004, we posted a note forwarded from somewhere else in the far reaches of cyberspace, suggesting that people wearing something red each Friday as a sign of protest against the US war in Iraq. 

Read that note >>

Suddenly, a year later, your WebWeaver is receiving more comments on the idea, and we’ll share them with you below. But the new spate of interest in wearing red has led me (of course) to Google.

I’ve learned that wearing red is part of a children’s song, that wearing red (but not much of it) can be used to sell stuff, but perhaps most important, that wearing red can give a team a winning edge in sports. (Ask the Red Sox about that.)

But here’s the "evidence":


Wearing red gives opponents blues
By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
(Filed: 5/19/2005)

Sporting competitors are more likely to emerge victorious if they are wearing red, according to a study of performance in a range of Olympic events.

Red coloration is associated with high testosterone, fitness and aggression in a variety of creatures, such as mandrills, sticklebacks and birds.

The whole story >>


Do with this what you will. It’s been hot here in Minnesota. Maybe your WebWeaver needs a vacation.

The recent messages about this important subject:

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Received 6/24/2005:

It looks like all the writers for your page have at least some cognitive difficulties. I hope that I am not revealing mine by sending an email....

Before I critique what has been posted, let me offer my condolences to Mrs Walker. My father died in the service before I had a chance to know him, and I am sure that yours is the much more painful loss.

Nancy Walker and her family have paid a much higher price in Iraq than an average citizen - but that does not justify her statement: "I will say it again. Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush are no better than mass murderers." Eisenhower was directly responsible for many deaths on the beaches of Normandy, and I doubt that she will place him in that same despicable category.

Andre Katz makes broad-brush accusations that seem to be wide of the mark (from my modest perusal of WitherspoonSociety). It seems particularly callous and cold-hearted to describe a mother who is grieving the combat death of her son as an one of the "activists who routinely support terrorism and hate our country".

The editor can't seem to read and reports that Earl Tilford "accuses us (the Witherspoon Society in particular and liberals in general) of terminal confusion" when the first sentence in his post clearly reads "Liberals are confused and radicals terminally so." Even if I have misunderstood the Witherspoon Society as being Liberal (not radical), the preface still distorts Tilford's words significantly.

Dr Tilford only wants to comment on the weaknesses in Walker's post and the strengths in Katz's post. (Since I may be closer in philosophy to Katz than Walker, I feel quite comfortable saying that Walker's post is MUCH more reasonable than Katz's. And even if Walker's were more emotional, she would at least have a basis for that emotionalism.) I tend to agree with most of what Tilford wrote - but he seems to be closing his eyes to some of the truth about that which he chooses to critique. Tilford concluded, "The only remedy for confusion is truth" - and he needs to be more open to that part of the truth which does not fit into his currently-defined system.

On balance, I appreciated your page. I wore red today - but now that I understand the significance more clearly, I will opt out in the future.

Gordon Burkett

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Received 6/26/2005

What does it take to be a politician? All you need to do to be a politician is to get people to vote for you. Period. You need not have taken a course it politics. You need no diploma or certificate of completion in anything. You may be a felon if you like. 435 politicians in Washington, and two thirds of them are lawbreakers. Convicted by the laws they or their predecessors have written. Wear RED! Is this the way you study History? How many wars can you name that this country did not start? The people of this country or so naive they act like a mother protecting her children. "Oh! My child could do no wrong. He/she is such a sweet child." How many Senators are there in the United States Senate? Wearing RED just won't cut it. What it will do is tell everyone you are really ticked off. Remember, you voted for them. It will also tell everyone you messed up at the poles. You believed what you were told. Not what you knew. We don't care who won at the poles because we have other concerns in our life. Why then do we complain when things go wrong? If we are the power, why don't we act like it? Are we under the dictatorship as the Norwegians and Danes were? What exactly are we tying to say when we wear Red? You see, these question are the ones that turn people off. These are the questions people don't want to hear. It makes them sorry they didn't pay attention in school. If they had, they would have realized what they were learning was not all there is. They would find out sooner or later that they were lied to.

Marvin Tyacke
Post Falls, ID 83854.

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And another from the same writer on 6/28/2005

I surfed through Google to see what I could find on "Wearing Red" Seems there is a plethora of reasons why people want other people to wear Red. So I have a suggestion. Let's change the color to purple. Purple is a little red and blue and looks great on a white background.


Marvin Tyacke
Post Falls, ID

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