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Groups comment on the defeat of Amendment O


[3-19-01]


Presbyterian-related organizations have responded in different ways to last week's deciding (but not final!!) votes on the amendment that would have banned the blessing of any relationships not considered "marriages" under the current Book of Order of the Presbyterian Church.


You may want to look at some of the statements:
bulletCovenant Network
bulletMore Light Presbyterians and That All May Freely Serve 
bulletPresbyterian Lay Committee 
bulletPresbyterian Layman Online
bulletPresbyterian Renewal Leaders Network

Comments from The Witherspoon Society are on two other pages:

bulletfrom Chris Iosso, Barbara Gaddis, and Gene TeSelle
bulletfrom Jane Hanna and Doug King
bulletAlso, Witherspooner Doug Nave offers an analysis
bulletand other visitors offer their thoughts.
 


While the comments are not totally unpredictable, it may be worth noting some of the observations on a couple major questions:


Is this a good decision?

The Covenant Network "is grateful that the presbyteries have defeated proposed Amendment 00-O. In so doing, they have, we believe, wisely chosen to leave the responsibility for providing appropriate worship and pastoral care with the ministers and sessions chosen by God through the voice of the people to fulfill these duties."


More Light Presbyterians and That All May Freely Serve: "Many of us as lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people of faith are grateful -- as our heterosexual sisters and brothers are -- for the opportunity to have our committed relationships recognized in the faith community of which we are an integral part. Our families and our friends join with us to stand in support, and to honor our commitments in deeply sacred moments for all present. We hope that the defeat of Amendment O is not only about preserving the historic right of sessions and ministers to fulfill pastoral responsibilities, but also about celebrating and supporting mutual and healthy relationships."

Robert L. Howard, chairman of the Presbyterian Lay Committee: "The loss of Amendment O has inflicted a deep wound in the life of our church. Offended by 'same-sex union ceremonies' in some of our churches and the failure of our highest court to prohibit them, faithful Presbyterians who uphold the sanctity of marriage are now questioning their continued membership in a denomination that will not affirm the clear teaching of Scripture."

Presbyterian Renewal Leaders Network: "The defeat of Amendment O confuses, rather than clarifies, the witness of the Presbyterian Church (USA) on marriage. Our constitution does not allow same-sex marriages."




What's next? 
Or: Will this lead to a split in the Presbyterian Church?



Covenant Network: "Some have suggested that the defeat of this amendment brings closer an inevitable split in the Presbyterian Church. We strongly disagree. And we pledge ourselves and our network to work with renewed dedication for the common mission we share with all our colleagues in ministry, whatever our views on issues of sexuality. This is a time for Presbyterians to recommit ourselves to the love, respect, and mutual forbearance that characterize Christ's church."

More Light Presbyterians and That All May Freely Serve: "We call on our Presbyterian Church (USA) to create venues in which we may learn from each other and work toward healthy human relationships, in all their forms."


The Layman Online: "The reaction to the defeat of Amendment O -- which would have prohibited Presbyterian Church (USA) pastors from blessing marriage-like unions of homosexual couples -- has been swift and, often, explosive. Those who view homosexual unions as a violation of Biblical and confessional theology warn that the defeat of the amendment could rupture the denomination." The article then quotes comments from various people, such as Dr. John Buckingham: "It is time to leave en mass [sic.]. I can leave every temporal thing such as buildings, organs, sound systems and investments, but I cannot leave the Word of God." Others are quoted as saying that "theological conservatives" should stay and do battle.


Lay Committee chairman Robert Howard: "We urge Presbyterians who are faithful to Scripture not to leave the denomination at this time. Our board of directors is meeting March 23-24 to assess the current crisis and seek God's leading toward a faithful response. We will share our conclusions throughout the Presbyterian Church (USA)."

Presbyterian Renewal Leaders Network: "... we declare that the lordship of Jesus Christ and his requirement that we obey the moral law are not negotiable. Church leaders who openly defy Biblical faith and ethics are pushing our denomination perilously toward schism. We confess that we cannot -- and we will not -- compromise the integrity of God's Word."

 

If you have comments of your own to add, we'd be glad to hear from you, and to share them here. 

 

 

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GA actions ratified (or not) by  the presbyteries   

A number of the most important actions of the 219th General Assembly have now been acted upon by the presbyteries, confirming most of them as amendments to the PC(USA) Book of Order.

We provided resources to help inform the reflection and debate, along with updates on the voting.

Our three areas of primary interest have been:

bullet Amendment 10-A, which  removes the current ban on lesbian/gay/bisexual/transgender persons being considered as possible candidates for ordination as elder or ministers.  Approved!

bullet Amendment 10-2, which would add the Belhar Confession to our Book of Confessions.  Disapproved, because as an amendment to the Book of Confessions it needed a 2/3 vote, and did not receive that.

bullet Amendment 10-1, which  adopts the new Form of Government that was approved by the Assembly.   Approved.
 

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Some blogs worth visiting

PVJ's Facebook page

Mitch Trigger, PVJ's Secretary/Communicator, has created a Facebook page where Witherspoon members and others can gather to exchange news and views. Mitch and a few others have posted bits of news, both personal and organizational. But there’s room for more!

You can post your own news and views, or initiate a conversation about a topic of interest to you.

 

Voices of Sophia blog

Heather Reichgott, who has created this new blog for Voices of Sophia, introduces it:

After fifteen years of scholarship and activism, Voices of Sophia presents a blog. Here, we present the voices of feminist theologians of all stripes: scholars, clergy, students, exiles, missionaries, workers, thinkers, artists, lovers and devotees, from many parts of the world, all children of the God in whose image women are made. .... This blog seeks to glorify God through prayer, work, art, and intellectual reflection. Through articles and ensuing discussion we hope to become an active and thoughtful community.

 

John Harris’ Summit to Shore blogspot

Theological and philosophical reflections on everything between summit to shore, including kayaking, climbing, religion, spirituality, philosophy, theology, politics, culture, travel, The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), New York City and the Queens neighborhood of Ridgewood by a progressive New York City Presbyterian Pastor. John is a former member of the Witherspoon board, and is designated pastor of North Presbyterian Church in Flushing, NY.

 

John Shuck’s Shuck and Jive

A Presbyterian minister, currently serving as pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Elizabethton, Tenn., blogs about spirituality, culture, religion (both organized and disorganized), life, evolution, literature, Jesus, and lightening up.

 

Got more blogs to recommend?

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