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Ordination Standards committee proposes sweeping repeal of ban on gay ordination

Vote is 31-25 to repeal G-6.0106b and 'authoritative interpretation'

by Jerry Van Marter, Presbyterian News Service

LOUISVILLE -- June 12, 2001 -- A colossal battle looms on the floor of the 213th General Assembly after its Assembly Committee on Ordination Standards voted today to recommend that both the sexual conduct standards for ordination and the 23-year-old "authoritative interpretation" of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) Book of Order on the subject be repealed.

The final vote on the sweeping measure ­ Overture 01-8 from New York City Presbytery with an addition from Overture 01-12 from the Presbytery of the Western Reserve ­­ was 31-25. A substitute motion to answer all the ordination overtures in the negative and send a pastoral letter to the presbyteries was defeated, 24-31.

After the committee voted to adopt Overture 01-8, it voted to let its action answer all other overtures related to ordination standards.

Those on the losing side of the vote immediately announced that they would file a minority report.

The recommendation asks that G-6.0106b be deleted from the Book of Order, that the "authoritative interpretation" of 1978 "be given no further force or effect," and that a sentence be added to G-6.0106a stating: "Their (candidates for ordination) suitability to hold office is determined by the governing body where the examination for ordination or installation takes place, guided by Scriptural and constitutional standards under the authority and Lordship of Jesus Christ."

If the proposal is approved by the Assembly, the new authoritative interpretation will not take effect unless a majority of the 173 presbyteries vote to ratify the deletion of G-6.0106b.

The close vote mirrored the debate in this committee and the running battle that has nearly consumed the PC(USA) since G-6.0106b was approved by the 1996 General Assembly and then ratified by the presbyteries by a vote of 97-74.

During a free-wheeling discussion that lasted all morning and well into the afternoon, speakers to the motion were almost evenly divided.

The Rev. Molly Douthett of Miami Presbytery, who made the motion that eventually passed, urged committee members not to be afraid. "I hear people saying we'll die, that this will be the end of the Presbyterian Church," she said. "Well, why are we afraid? Christ conquered death, so there's no place for fear in the life of faith."

But the Rev. David Hornor of Donegal Presbytery warned that the PC(USA) will be adversely affected in a variety of ways that should cause concern. "This will hurt our relations with a number of our partner churches, who have told us their relationships with us will be difficult to maintain if we ordain homosexuals," he said. "Beyond that," Hornor said, "I fear what will happen on the floors of our presbyteries, with every candidate for installation questioned about their sexual orientation or practice. Some pastors will not be welcome in other presbyteries."

Ted Mikels of Salem Presbytery called the proposal "a broadside in our continuing wars." Camille Josey of Greater Atlanta Presbytery agreed. "This overture will engage us in a war that cannot be won," she said. "We should seek any other method than legislation."

The Rev. Ted Blankinship of Central Florida Presbytery called ordination standards a "justice issue" that cannot be avoided. "It doesn't matter if we're tired of it," he said, "I'm sure the civil rights advocates in the 60s got real tired, too. But no other class of Presbyterians is excluded and we must do what is right, no matter how tired we are of it."

Other opponents argued that the Bible is clear that homosexuality is a sin and that the church simply cannot tolerate or excuse sinful behavior. Alfred Roth of Cascades Presbytery said, "I look at the issue this way: What does God's Word say? If this passes, I'm concerned about what will happen to that part of the church that holds to God's Word and therefore these standards."

But Theological Student Advisory Delegate Theresa Wood-Burgess said, "We can't take the Bible literally or all the women in this room would have to leave." Ralph LeVan of Scioto Valley Presbytery said that "even if we grant that homosexuality is a sin, according to the Bible, so is divorce and we've decided that's okay."

The issue of sinfulness is related to the issue of repentance, said several committee members. "God gives us a chance to repent," said the Rev. Robert Thornton of Abingdon Presbytery. "I step in mudholes, but eventually I learn to walk around 'em," he said. "We'll vote today but the Word of God will remain and we'll eventually have to submit to His standards."

Kathryn Morgan rejected the idea that the Bible is an exclusive possession of any one person or position. "I hear 'my Bible says this,'" she said, "but it's God's Bible, not yours or mine. I've seen God's Word lived out in the lives of (homosexual persons) and I believe there's room in God's house for all of us."

 

 
 

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