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Press conference offers reactions from two sides to ordination action

by Jane Hines, PNS

LOUISVILLE -- June 15, 2001 -- Following the vote by the 213th General Assembly to send to presbyteries a recommendation to remove G-60106B from the Book of Order, a press conference was held to get reactions from representatives of groups involved in of the ordination debate.

Ordination opponents express disappointment, see church as divided

First to speak were representatives of Presbyterians for Renewal and the Presbyterian Coalition, both of which have opposed ordination of gays and lesbians.

Nancy Maffett, elder commissioner from Colorado Springs, said, "There is a great weariness in the church. I feel this will be damaging to the Body and its unity."

Matt Robbins from California, co-moderator of the Youth Advisory Delegates at this Assembly, said, "I am disappointed with the vote but I am pleased with the way YADs discussed it. I think there was too much pressure to make everyone happy. I think the decision was brought through our culture. It's hard enough to be a young person trying to be faithful to Jesus. We need the church to stand up and say there is truth in the Bible."

Joe Rightmyer, executive director of Presbyterians for Renewal, said, "I am saddened by statements of unbelief in yesterday's debate on salvation through Jesus Christ. It was not just a difference of opinion. The question is not how we get to God but to reaffirm how God comes to us."

Jerry Andrews, representing the Presbyterian Coalition, said the vote was not unexpected. "There will be a better reflection of reality in the presbytery votes," he added.

Russ Ritchel, Jr., a minister from Salem Presbytery in North Carolina, said in response to a question about a possible split in the denomination as a result of the vote, "There already is a split in the church. It's like we're in a British comedy where we are all handcuffed together. We are handcuffed together by our property. How can we expect others to take us seriously when we have not figured out a way to live together and affirm one another?"

Rightmyer said he had talked to pastors with tears in their eyes who say they don't know if they can keep their congregations together. "How many will still be around to vote in the presbyteries?" he asked.

Ordination advocates express gratitude to God, see hope for church

During the second part of the press conference, representatives of More Light Presbyterians, That All May Freely Serve and The Shower of Stoles Project offered a different perspective. They began with a statement by Bill Moss, co-moderator of More Light Presbyterians and an openly gay elder at Old First Presbyterian Church in San Francisco. It said:

"We join together in giving thanks to God for this action of the General Assembly that paves the way for the ordination of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Presbyterians. Today the church has returned to its historic principles of allowing local churches and presbyteries to make decisions about ordination. " The statement expressed gratitude to "everyone who worked in their local churches, presbyteries and synods...to everyone who prayed for us, wrote letters, spoke in public, signed covenants of dissent or otherwise offered a witness to the working of the Spirit."

In a media release, Martha Juillerat, Director of the Shower of Stoles project, said the decision impacts more lives than the Assembly commissioners imagine. The Shower of Stoles Project is a collection of over 800 stoles donated by lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender individuals called to serve in ordained positions. About half of the stoles are from Presbyterians. "The stoles bear powerful silent witness to the host of impassioned, qualified, and faithful people knocking at the church's door, or waiting silenced within the church for the day they can serve openly," she said.

The group expressed opinions in the press conference about divisions in the church and who has caused them. They said they expect to go back to churches that are "overjoyed" at the decision rather than dismayed.

Responding to a question about which group has the word of God, Don Stroud, commissioner from Baltimore Presbytery, said, "No one can box up and contain the Word of God. A legislative process can never put God in a box."

Moderator Rogers sees this Assembly as representing broad center of the church

213th General Assembly Moderator Jack Rogers spoke at the press conference after the two groups had shared their views with reporters. "The scriptures say 'Rejoice with those who rejoice and weep with those who weep.' I am rejoicing that this group now has hope and weep with those who sincerely believe the church has done a wrong thing," he said.

"I have friends in both groups," he said. "What you've seen with these two panels is what I've been experiencing as moderator. As I have looked out at the commissioners I have come to believe they represent the broad center of the Presbyterian Church. I have seen other Assemblies when most commissioners came pre-set for one position or another. These are regular folks who didn't seem to come here pre-committed. Some said they'd changed their minds since they came here."

"I don't doubt the sincerity of any of them," Rogers said. "Some believe they are reading the Bible right and think the others aren't."

"This Assembly has affirmed Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour every day. The thing that hurts deep in my soul is that almost everybody feels like a victim in this situation. I hope in the year to come we can address that. There are good people on all sides looking at this differently. I am hopeful that the Task Force, listening widely, can begin to address this," Rogers said.

 

 

Some blogs worth visiting

 

Voices of Sophia blog

Heather Reichgott, who has created this new blog for Voices of Sophia, introduces it:

After fifteen years of scholarship and activism, Voices of Sophia presents a blog. Here, we present the voices of feminist theologians of all stripes: scholars, clergy, students, exiles, missionaries, workers, thinkers, artists, lovers and devotees, from many parts of the world, all children of the God in whose image women are made. .... This blog seeks to glorify God through prayer, work, art, and intellectual reflection. Through articles and ensuing discussion we hope to become an active and thoughtful community.

 

Witherspoon’s Facebook page

Mitch Trigger, Witherspoon’s Secretary/Communicator, has created a Facebook page where Witherspoon members and others can gather to exchange news and views. Mitch and a few others have posted bits of news, both personal and organizational. But there’s room for more!

You can post your own news and views, or initiate a conversation about a topic of interest to you.

 

John Harris’ Summit to Shore blogspot

Theological and philosophical reflections on everything between summit to shore, including kayaking, climbing, religion, spirituality, philosophy, theology, politics, culture, travel, The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), New York City and the Queens neighborhood of Ridgewood by a progressive New York City Presbyterian Pastor. John is a former member of the Witherspoon board, and is designated pastor of North Presbyterian Church in Flushing, NY.

 

John Shuck’s Shuck and Jive

A Presbyterian minister, currently serving as pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Elizabethton, Tenn., blogs about spirituality, culture, religion (both organized and disorganized), life, evolution, literature, Jesus, and lightening up.

 

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